One thing I have noticed throughout talking with people who are unemployed is the negativity they possess. Yes it's hard without a doubt and you're reading this from a guy who went through a devastating divorce where I lost everything and then resigning from a job and while looking I've lost that much more, not that I had anything else to lose. When I tell you I lost it's not just materialistic items, it's faith, it's my kids, my friends, my family. Yes everyone tends to turn away from you when you hit with anarchy. It's not my problem. Oh they do help at the start, but eventually it gets old and they figure they have their own worries. Which in lot's of cases is true, but that's when we as a society should bond closer to help each other.
I recently was reading in a discussion of unemployment someone who wouldn't give acknowledgement to his creator. That he's not helping out. That is part of what keeps me going and has kept me going. It's OK to be mad and upset and blame, but understand nothing happens in our timing and no matter how many prayers one might say even our creator will not help unless you help yourself. When someone would ask me how am I doing, I always reply I'm doing well thank you, I woke up this morning and my feet hit the ground so I must be doing well. Besides any day on this side of the earth is got to be better than any day inside the earth, right? Well that's my spill on gospel. You have to believe in something or you'll fall for anything.
In my last post I spoke about getting out there and talking to people and letting people know you exist. I'm not one for mingling in a networking site around town. I never was one to do that, but I seem to be able to carry more of a relationship with people on the internet in discussion groups on LinkedIn and Facebook somewhat. I don't do much on Facebook by the way, really not my thing. But on LinkedIn, you need to speak with people; getting in discussions and letting people know what you offer on a discussion. I have made more contacts this way than I could ever make anywhere else. People read and many might disagree, but find some common ground and make that contact. Each contact is a potential that may get you closer to your goal.
Regarding my resume I have tinkered with it for so long I finally got it together and have had numerous recruiters as well as contacts tell me I have a very impressive resume. I did have 2 individuals in my network that offered me to look it over and give me some additional tweaks and both were resume writers in their profession. That did help. As I said I've read and continue to improve on my method. I never use an Objective statement. It is always a brief summary and several bullet points of my achievements. I've included it below.
Summary:
Passionate, proactive business leader, offering fresh ideas, building on new thoughts & theory with documented results of building on quality management, increasing revenue, reducing costs, developing people, exceeding expectations with accountability & veracity. Combined leadership, business acumen, technical expertise with strong communication & motivational skills to align business with cost-effective strategies to increase productivity & profitability. Improved ROI through process improvements.
Then followed by about 4 or 5 bullet points. I have 2 resumes. One is 2 pages, and one is 3 pages. I am not bashful about telling me my experience and I've gotten over the cliche' of age discrimination somewhat. Yes it effects me but not as bad as it use to. I'm a salesman and selling a product. It doesn't matter how old I am, I'm selling a product and my job is to make the buyer want the product. In theory if you can sell ice to an Eskimo who absolutely has no need for ice, then you should be able to sell yourself to a potential client who has a need and you have a remedy.
I said a potential client, because that is what the employers are that you are interviewing with a potential client. A future customer. Even when you got to work for an employer you are nothing more than a salesman on a daily basis providing a service for their need. You will get paid for what you deliver. Is that any different than what a salesperson does? You have to study your client and be well prepared to present your product and services and know ahead of time what is the need they are seeking out. OK so you have a job description, study it, read between the lines and understand what is it they are searching for. Forget the title, intriguing but that won't get you the job. Most employers in my experience want to know what you can do for them now not what you did in the past. Your experiences just qualifies you to be sitting in front of them. Now it's my job to convince them the product I'm discussing is what they are looking for and my product is clearly the best on the market and here's what my product will do today if you jump on board and give me the opportunity to prove to you, you have made a wise choice.
To many people I have found go into an interview not prepared, myself included over time. They assume they met all the points from the job description so they qualify. Heck look at the big 3 auto makers. They all have the same resume. So they each sit in front of you trying to get you to buy their product. They all have what you specify you want. What are they doing to win you over? What can they do for you today that the other one hasn't offered or cannot do? It's the same process.
I find people are not salesman and if they are not in sales they have no clue nor do they want to learn how to be a salesperson. I never thought I would have to change my way of thinking but I did change. I'm a salesperson and I have to market my product (ME)in the best possible light with the best possible ideas that will get this potential client to want to use my services. Will I get his business? I don't know, but I'm going to sell to him and negotiate what I can do for him/her the best way I can. Quit thinking of yourself as an interviewee who has met the bullet points of a job description. Yes you need the JD to qualify you for the position, but now it comes time to write that proposal in a clear concise format we all know as the cover letter to help get you in the door so you can concentrate on the product. Taylor your resume for each job you apply to. It's not easy, yes it gets boring and tiresome, but you are trying to win over your next big client. Think like a sales manager. Think like a marketing director.
What you're reading is part of my plan I put together over time, there's more to come, hang in there!
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Friday, August 26, 2011
Thursday, October 14, 2010
Contrary to Popular Belief
I know I seem to blog about what seems to be many types of subject matter. However, as a whole they always seem to circle around back to my experiences within management. Tonight I wanted to talk about what we type on our post, threads, profiles, etc.
So many people do not take heed in what has been said countless time after time, about what they type out there in cyber land. They rant, rave, show disgruntle and disrespect to fellow contributors it is just astonishing.
I will not sit and say I never get frustrated toward what some write or share, but I do not contribute to the cause by arguing with anyone just to prove my point. It is better to walk away with my integrity in tack than to argue with someone who refuses to see the light. You know their use to be an old saying "It is hard to win a battle of wits with someone who brings a knife to a gun fight!" There is a lot of meaning in that statement. Look around and what do you see constantly on sites, social, business, whatever the network site is; people are very revealing in what they say and what they show. I realize this subject have been tackled and spoke about many times in different forums, but tonight as I was visiting one of my threads, I watched someone call their parent stupid for their advice and yet did not understand why they were unemployed.
Maybe the case is not that someone will ever notice a comment like this and many will probably just blow it off as a moment in the person's life but it still grounds to pay attention.
In regards to anyone who challenges sights that just simply writes stuff with negativity, insults, disgruntled comments, there is wisdom that can be learned for people who contribute to this enigma.
I can honestly say, I listen, and I participate in several discussion groups. You will never see the many people out there who sit in the shadows. I posted a question in a Q&A forum a while back asking HR and recruiters do they review everything about an individual on linked in and do they follow them if they are interested in them.
The response was scattered. Some stated no, some stated to some degree but do not follow since they simply did not have the time. Others stated if it is someone we are interested in we will follow them, read their profile from top to bottom, learn about them, follow their Q&A activity and watch them in their discussions. Why you might ask? Well for the most part, you are relaxed in a general setting with people of like personalities and/or like situations and cannot wait to voice your opinion. You rebut to comments made, offer suggestions, comment in general, and make jokes and other things.
There are many people sitting outside discussions shadowing and just watching never offering to say anything. These HR or recruiters get a first hand idea of the type of person you are with your communications and how you handle certain dilemmas, case studies, contributions, etc. They view if you are argumentative, caring, your style of dealing with people, if you are easily frustrated, etc. You can actually tell someone's personality simply by the way him or her write.
I literally had a firm contact me a while back and strictly indicated they read my entire profile and even read my blog and liked what they saw and contacted me. I might not have got the job, but people are watching.
I have had this discussion numerous times with my children. At their age and as internet shrewdness as one would think they are you would think they would know better. Well, they say they do know. But each time I read something on one of their sites there is always curse words, cannot wait till the weekend for partying, it’s Friday, fixing to pop a top, having dinner and drinks, downing a few brews on the lake, etc. etc. You get the idea. I cannot make them understand.
The reasoning is it is their personal site, they only let someone they know on it. As anyone with internet savvy experience and by no means am I the expert, but if it can be captured it will. If you have 200 friends, and their friends each have 200 friends do you know who their friends are especially if you have given those friends you have authority to review your profiles and photos? In a tech savvy world that we live in do people not believe companies cannot find nor have ways to get around this. Are you so cautious that you will not slip up with one contact one day who happens to be friends with the boss or someone who wants your position at work? Trust is not something to be taken lightly in the world of greed, and identity theft. There is another saying, “Keep your friends close, your enemies closer!” You might be friends with someone on your social or business site but statistics proves that the average person has a true association with about 10 people in their social settings. Can you actually keep track of 200 so called friends? Do you know each step they make? Do you read every post each one of them makes? It is quite impossible. Then parents are not well informed enough to get this through their kids minds.
In closing, I always, always watch what I write, never imposing anything on anyone, just my thoughts, never taking sides, never being negative, a know it all, or disclosing anything that I wouldn't want grandma to hear. I give truth to my opinions, back it up with many facts when in Q&A forums, straight forward, but kind. I never side with anyone since it is typically an opinion and it simply my opinion and we all have one.
I ensure everything I post is spell checked and worded correctly to the best of my ability. No, I am not an English major but I try hard to ensure it is proper. Many people will not go to all these lengths, but as it has been indicated everything you say is stuck in cyber land despite saying I will delete it; it is out there. Negatives and discontented comments should immediately be struck off by deleting. There is no need to fuel fires if at all you can help it.
One day in all of our distant futures when something we want badly enough comes knocking someone will pull out something that we said or stated and the anarchy begins. It is not like the ole days, it is way too easy to dispel someone over a simple comment.
So many people do not take heed in what has been said countless time after time, about what they type out there in cyber land. They rant, rave, show disgruntle and disrespect to fellow contributors it is just astonishing.
I will not sit and say I never get frustrated toward what some write or share, but I do not contribute to the cause by arguing with anyone just to prove my point. It is better to walk away with my integrity in tack than to argue with someone who refuses to see the light. You know their use to be an old saying "It is hard to win a battle of wits with someone who brings a knife to a gun fight!" There is a lot of meaning in that statement. Look around and what do you see constantly on sites, social, business, whatever the network site is; people are very revealing in what they say and what they show. I realize this subject have been tackled and spoke about many times in different forums, but tonight as I was visiting one of my threads, I watched someone call their parent stupid for their advice and yet did not understand why they were unemployed.
Maybe the case is not that someone will ever notice a comment like this and many will probably just blow it off as a moment in the person's life but it still grounds to pay attention.
In regards to anyone who challenges sights that just simply writes stuff with negativity, insults, disgruntled comments, there is wisdom that can be learned for people who contribute to this enigma.
I can honestly say, I listen, and I participate in several discussion groups. You will never see the many people out there who sit in the shadows. I posted a question in a Q&A forum a while back asking HR and recruiters do they review everything about an individual on linked in and do they follow them if they are interested in them.
The response was scattered. Some stated no, some stated to some degree but do not follow since they simply did not have the time. Others stated if it is someone we are interested in we will follow them, read their profile from top to bottom, learn about them, follow their Q&A activity and watch them in their discussions. Why you might ask? Well for the most part, you are relaxed in a general setting with people of like personalities and/or like situations and cannot wait to voice your opinion. You rebut to comments made, offer suggestions, comment in general, and make jokes and other things.
There are many people sitting outside discussions shadowing and just watching never offering to say anything. These HR or recruiters get a first hand idea of the type of person you are with your communications and how you handle certain dilemmas, case studies, contributions, etc. They view if you are argumentative, caring, your style of dealing with people, if you are easily frustrated, etc. You can actually tell someone's personality simply by the way him or her write.
I literally had a firm contact me a while back and strictly indicated they read my entire profile and even read my blog and liked what they saw and contacted me. I might not have got the job, but people are watching.
I have had this discussion numerous times with my children. At their age and as internet shrewdness as one would think they are you would think they would know better. Well, they say they do know. But each time I read something on one of their sites there is always curse words, cannot wait till the weekend for partying, it’s Friday, fixing to pop a top, having dinner and drinks, downing a few brews on the lake, etc. etc. You get the idea. I cannot make them understand.
The reasoning is it is their personal site, they only let someone they know on it. As anyone with internet savvy experience and by no means am I the expert, but if it can be captured it will. If you have 200 friends, and their friends each have 200 friends do you know who their friends are especially if you have given those friends you have authority to review your profiles and photos? In a tech savvy world that we live in do people not believe companies cannot find nor have ways to get around this. Are you so cautious that you will not slip up with one contact one day who happens to be friends with the boss or someone who wants your position at work? Trust is not something to be taken lightly in the world of greed, and identity theft. There is another saying, “Keep your friends close, your enemies closer!” You might be friends with someone on your social or business site but statistics proves that the average person has a true association with about 10 people in their social settings. Can you actually keep track of 200 so called friends? Do you know each step they make? Do you read every post each one of them makes? It is quite impossible. Then parents are not well informed enough to get this through their kids minds.
In closing, I always, always watch what I write, never imposing anything on anyone, just my thoughts, never taking sides, never being negative, a know it all, or disclosing anything that I wouldn't want grandma to hear. I give truth to my opinions, back it up with many facts when in Q&A forums, straight forward, but kind. I never side with anyone since it is typically an opinion and it simply my opinion and we all have one.
I ensure everything I post is spell checked and worded correctly to the best of my ability. No, I am not an English major but I try hard to ensure it is proper. Many people will not go to all these lengths, but as it has been indicated everything you say is stuck in cyber land despite saying I will delete it; it is out there. Negatives and discontented comments should immediately be struck off by deleting. There is no need to fuel fires if at all you can help it.
One day in all of our distant futures when something we want badly enough comes knocking someone will pull out something that we said or stated and the anarchy begins. It is not like the ole days, it is way too easy to dispel someone over a simple comment.
Wednesday, October 13, 2010
Nostalgia- Continued
I recently wrote on an earlier blog "Nostalgia, A Thing Of The Past Or A Useful Tool For The Future?"
I cannot help but think back of the way things were. I know; I know several have stated that the past is the past. Nevertheless, have you ever given it any thought? Where would you be if not for the past? Would you be right here typing on this thread if you had not had something that lead to this technology in your life back in the day? Maybe it was just a typing class. However, it was something. So I will not sit around and even think the past was just that the past.
If it had not been for President Kennedy back in his day, would we have ever evolved to the space age, as we know it? Sure, we would have made it there, but when, and would it be as we know it today and would we have been number one? Look at what we are going through today. One can hope based on opinions, facts, and theory that the next movement toward jobs of the future will be lessons learned and better achievements should this ever happen again, and let us face it, we will, maybe not myself but someone will go through this ordeal again, and again. Let us hope we all are learning, young and old, something about hiring people, communications, becoming more personable and expectations from recruiters to jobseekers.
If we don't learn, life as we know it may have been hard before, but the future will not only be hard, but it will be lonely because if we continue to apply the way things are being done today the only hope we have is sitting on our porch in our rocking chair moving back and forth and the only thing left to think about will be the good ole days!
I cannot help but think back of the way things were. I know; I know several have stated that the past is the past. Nevertheless, have you ever given it any thought? Where would you be if not for the past? Would you be right here typing on this thread if you had not had something that lead to this technology in your life back in the day? Maybe it was just a typing class. However, it was something. So I will not sit around and even think the past was just that the past.
If it had not been for President Kennedy back in his day, would we have ever evolved to the space age, as we know it? Sure, we would have made it there, but when, and would it be as we know it today and would we have been number one? Look at what we are going through today. One can hope based on opinions, facts, and theory that the next movement toward jobs of the future will be lessons learned and better achievements should this ever happen again, and let us face it, we will, maybe not myself but someone will go through this ordeal again, and again. Let us hope we all are learning, young and old, something about hiring people, communications, becoming more personable and expectations from recruiters to jobseekers.
If we don't learn, life as we know it may have been hard before, but the future will not only be hard, but it will be lonely because if we continue to apply the way things are being done today the only hope we have is sitting on our porch in our rocking chair moving back and forth and the only thing left to think about will be the good ole days!
Monday, October 11, 2010
The Blame Game
Last night I got into a discussion and as Peter Griffin from Family Guy stated in a job he took for a news station... "What Really Grinds My Gears" was the fact that someone was talking about the state the economy is in and who is to blame for it. Of course there are plenty people still out there pointing fingers. Following is what I replied as I'm objective enough to know it is not a matter of whose fault it is but whose going to take action to get us back on track.
I think personally that we really need to be passed these pointing fingers of who inherited what from whom and how they got it. If you read history, this sort of reaction to the economy was coming for the last 40 years. It has been clearly stated by every president in a state of the union message. We need to do something, or future generations will suffer. What will we do? They always brought it up, always said where we need to focus but never had any answers and each has simply passed it down.
Despite who is at fault and who dropped the ball and who should keep running, we need to be more focused on what government as a whole will do to cure the issues at hand. Voting to me is an awesome responsibility but if it is merely just a knee jerk reaction to get the public to listen to the promises and the typical election is won by someone who says their interest is that of the populist and the result being voted electoral college which is really a joke in my book since you have no clue who’s voting for the people or for their own pocket book and no one is going to listen, then the general population needs to react differently.
The main issue is not who’s fault it is but reducing the amount government gets toward spending and the lobbyist who continue to fund their own causes leaving we the people groveling in lines trying to show we’re not spoiled, wasted, or the bad omen of unemployment. The focus from main stream politicians should not worry about the Ob-care right now, or other controversial programs that support bogus pork, but it should be full focus on building a better public confidence so companies will have the want to train and put people back to work. Being unemployed is not only hurting the jobless population, it is also hurting business in general and the government. No taxes in, no taxes out. No money made, no product purchased.
Until mainstream realizes that they may be capable of their own expenditures, they are really forcing the typical business to have to support the unemployed also. One way or another someone is paying something for someone who is unemployed.
We need to really get passed the blame game and focus on how to make touchdowns!
I think personally that we really need to be passed these pointing fingers of who inherited what from whom and how they got it. If you read history, this sort of reaction to the economy was coming for the last 40 years. It has been clearly stated by every president in a state of the union message. We need to do something, or future generations will suffer. What will we do? They always brought it up, always said where we need to focus but never had any answers and each has simply passed it down.
Despite who is at fault and who dropped the ball and who should keep running, we need to be more focused on what government as a whole will do to cure the issues at hand. Voting to me is an awesome responsibility but if it is merely just a knee jerk reaction to get the public to listen to the promises and the typical election is won by someone who says their interest is that of the populist and the result being voted electoral college which is really a joke in my book since you have no clue who’s voting for the people or for their own pocket book and no one is going to listen, then the general population needs to react differently.
The main issue is not who’s fault it is but reducing the amount government gets toward spending and the lobbyist who continue to fund their own causes leaving we the people groveling in lines trying to show we’re not spoiled, wasted, or the bad omen of unemployment. The focus from main stream politicians should not worry about the Ob-care right now, or other controversial programs that support bogus pork, but it should be full focus on building a better public confidence so companies will have the want to train and put people back to work. Being unemployed is not only hurting the jobless population, it is also hurting business in general and the government. No taxes in, no taxes out. No money made, no product purchased.
Until mainstream realizes that they may be capable of their own expenditures, they are really forcing the typical business to have to support the unemployed also. One way or another someone is paying something for someone who is unemployed.
We need to really get passed the blame game and focus on how to make touchdowns!
Self-Distruction
I understand a lot about technology. I might not be IT savvy, but I do have a considerable amount of knowledge toward what we deal with today, but what I do not get is how upcoming do not seem to get it. We all watch sci-fi. Let us face it we have seen it happen over our lifetime, just was not as bad. We had space movies, and reality taught us to get to the moon. We had Hal the robot who controlled 2001 A Space Odyssey, so we all assumed one day we'll have a space station and we created Skylab. However, why don‘t we ever get it?
We sit around now and complain about jobs. Does anyone not see where we are headed? Maybe not in my life time but at least in my kid’s lifetime, there will be some sort of robotics that eliminates the welfare of an honest days work. We did see i-ROBOT right? Then I forget the name of the movie, but Green something I believe.... but it is where government simply gathered people up and imprisoned them for being around the age of 60 or so. Then they annihilated them and used them for fertilizer. Ok far fetch maybe, but think about it, if Hollywood can think it up and dream it up and we've seen what their sci-fi buddies have created that turned into reality, anything is possible.
My point is doesn't anyone see that the more we progress and I'm not against progression at all but when it affects mankind do we not see now things we're doing daily can progress to the point where we are hurting ourselves. Greed in Corporations will become outdated. Money will become obsolete. So you are getting rich now but one day when you have all this money and a one-world government decides for you that it is worthless and now you will answer to them then what will greed have accomplished?
Those list from the good ole days are true and shed light, but what is next... You kids have it so easy, I remember when we had to take the space shuttle to work just to earn enough to stay alive, and today you kids just beam yourself around the globe and create virtual mistresses to come in an baby-sit y'all. Y'all have it way to easy.
Fiction yes, but to me, it is the future and we just do not realize we are our own worst enemy, and we will eventually self-destruct!
We sit around now and complain about jobs. Does anyone not see where we are headed? Maybe not in my life time but at least in my kid’s lifetime, there will be some sort of robotics that eliminates the welfare of an honest days work. We did see i-ROBOT right? Then I forget the name of the movie, but Green something I believe.... but it is where government simply gathered people up and imprisoned them for being around the age of 60 or so. Then they annihilated them and used them for fertilizer. Ok far fetch maybe, but think about it, if Hollywood can think it up and dream it up and we've seen what their sci-fi buddies have created that turned into reality, anything is possible.
My point is doesn't anyone see that the more we progress and I'm not against progression at all but when it affects mankind do we not see now things we're doing daily can progress to the point where we are hurting ourselves. Greed in Corporations will become outdated. Money will become obsolete. So you are getting rich now but one day when you have all this money and a one-world government decides for you that it is worthless and now you will answer to them then what will greed have accomplished?
Those list from the good ole days are true and shed light, but what is next... You kids have it so easy, I remember when we had to take the space shuttle to work just to earn enough to stay alive, and today you kids just beam yourself around the globe and create virtual mistresses to come in an baby-sit y'all. Y'all have it way to easy.
Fiction yes, but to me, it is the future and we just do not realize we are our own worst enemy, and we will eventually self-destruct!
Nostalgia, A Thing Of The Past Or A Useful Tool For The Future
I recently had a discussion with a group on nostalgia. I heard a lot of comments on why looking back is no way to pursue the future. What happened in the past is just that the past.
I had to stop and give some thought to those comments. Is that true is it merely the past and there's nothing to gain from it? Looking at it from the good ole days and applying it to our current economic conditions. How true cocould this possibly be? If nostalgia is nothing more than the past and it cannot help us in the future why do we teach history in classrooms?Don't we learn anything from history especially on helping us establish the future?
After careful consideration here is what I've come up with. Nostalgia is what keeps us grounded. The ones who are paying it forward are those that know what paying it forward means. X&Y genres do not see it so easily and do not recognize it so kindly. They expect. The belief of nostalgia will not will get the next genres nowhere, why, because they fail to want to learn it. As the kids say today, the old people are talking about the ole days. Very few acknowledge how much those ole days contributed to what they have and are able to progress into doing today. Without those nostalgia thoughts, there really would not be no today to pay forward!
The more the conversation went on the response was nostalgia is nothing more than the older people trying to be self righteous and looking for someone to give back to them. The point being made about the genres X&Y were that they know all about paying forward they don't need nostalgia because they may be geeks but they help out around the community.
I do not find nostalgia self-righteousness thinking of simpler times and maybe I should restate; many of the X&Y genres do not see it so clearly. My kids volunteer also for civic things. But it does come to a point where self-righteous is what we see nowadays with many who do not recognize the generations before them as being the ground work that has enabled them to be where they are and where they are heading.
I have always appreciated the stories my folks have told us from the days gone by. I realized from an early age if not for what they went through, there is no way I would be doing or was able to accomplish what I have accomplished.
Even though my kids volunteer for civic activities and help out, ask them how they got to where they are? Simply stated they will say, Dad, those were old days you grew up in, today things have changed we do not have to worry about that, we have electronics. Is that not self-righteous? My daughter’s boyfriend one evening after inviting him over to have dinner with us sat on the porch with me and we were talking about jobs and the like. I brought up how I remember when obtaining a job was not so hard. I remember how a bunch of friends would even go on a weekend and unload boxcars of oilfield mud, and fertilizers that were in 100 lb sacks and leave at the end of the day with 10 bucks and how to make extra dollars we would go out in the potato fields and help them dig potatoes for $15 a day.
There is nothing self-righteous about that. That was the truth. His response was, Mr. Dennis, I can honestly say I know nothing about what true work is, and he raised his hands and they were softer than a baby's tush... and replied.. all I know is how to operate computers!
I am glad we were able to give our kids more, in fact, that was the idea, but it was not the idea to say hey, let us just disconnect with those that made it happen!
Self righteous is all around us, look at the interviews you go on today when you meet someone who is younger than you, they don’t want to hire you because they don’t want to be telling their mothers and dads what to do, but they have that entitlement belief, I deserve this, a good example was someone I know who went to an interview and the interviewer was in his twenties. He totally insulted this person, the interviewee. Once the owner which was the father found out he called the individual in with the son who was the interviewer and got to the bottom of this situation. The son came clean thinking he was the big shot of the operations. Undoubtably the son was discharged from his position and the interviewee, was left with some dignity.That was arrogance and self-righteous, you owe me I do not owe you!
I did have to agree that there are people out there from the ole days who
seem to view things through rose-colored glasses. As I responded I stated
I agreed that people cannot view things through the rose-colored glasses as stated. As I stated, nostalgia is great for keeping you grounded, but if you're hiding behind something and can't accept the fact that you have to embrace what is at hand today in front of you, you're simply fooling yourself, no matter what genre you come from. I do not see nostalgia as a bad thing if (like anything else) used in its appropriate manner. I use it as an appreciation for where I am and where I am headed. Like I stated, I'm quite familiar with nowadays technology and I can embrace it, it has made things in my life easier.
Nevertheless, I will state do I wish for simpler times, most definitely, will I see it in my lifetime... I seriously doubt it, but I can pray!
I had to stop and give some thought to those comments. Is that true is it merely the past and there's nothing to gain from it? Looking at it from the good ole days and applying it to our current economic conditions. How true cocould this possibly be? If nostalgia is nothing more than the past and it cannot help us in the future why do we teach history in classrooms?Don't we learn anything from history especially on helping us establish the future?
After careful consideration here is what I've come up with. Nostalgia is what keeps us grounded. The ones who are paying it forward are those that know what paying it forward means. X&Y genres do not see it so easily and do not recognize it so kindly. They expect. The belief of nostalgia will not will get the next genres nowhere, why, because they fail to want to learn it. As the kids say today, the old people are talking about the ole days. Very few acknowledge how much those ole days contributed to what they have and are able to progress into doing today. Without those nostalgia thoughts, there really would not be no today to pay forward!
The more the conversation went on the response was nostalgia is nothing more than the older people trying to be self righteous and looking for someone to give back to them. The point being made about the genres X&Y were that they know all about paying forward they don't need nostalgia because they may be geeks but they help out around the community.
I do not find nostalgia self-righteousness thinking of simpler times and maybe I should restate; many of the X&Y genres do not see it so clearly. My kids volunteer also for civic things. But it does come to a point where self-righteous is what we see nowadays with many who do not recognize the generations before them as being the ground work that has enabled them to be where they are and where they are heading.
I have always appreciated the stories my folks have told us from the days gone by. I realized from an early age if not for what they went through, there is no way I would be doing or was able to accomplish what I have accomplished.
Even though my kids volunteer for civic activities and help out, ask them how they got to where they are? Simply stated they will say, Dad, those were old days you grew up in, today things have changed we do not have to worry about that, we have electronics. Is that not self-righteous? My daughter’s boyfriend one evening after inviting him over to have dinner with us sat on the porch with me and we were talking about jobs and the like. I brought up how I remember when obtaining a job was not so hard. I remember how a bunch of friends would even go on a weekend and unload boxcars of oilfield mud, and fertilizers that were in 100 lb sacks and leave at the end of the day with 10 bucks and how to make extra dollars we would go out in the potato fields and help them dig potatoes for $15 a day.
There is nothing self-righteous about that. That was the truth. His response was, Mr. Dennis, I can honestly say I know nothing about what true work is, and he raised his hands and they were softer than a baby's tush... and replied.. all I know is how to operate computers!
I am glad we were able to give our kids more, in fact, that was the idea, but it was not the idea to say hey, let us just disconnect with those that made it happen!
Self righteous is all around us, look at the interviews you go on today when you meet someone who is younger than you, they don’t want to hire you because they don’t want to be telling their mothers and dads what to do, but they have that entitlement belief, I deserve this, a good example was someone I know who went to an interview and the interviewer was in his twenties. He totally insulted this person, the interviewee. Once the owner which was the father found out he called the individual in with the son who was the interviewer and got to the bottom of this situation. The son came clean thinking he was the big shot of the operations. Undoubtably the son was discharged from his position and the interviewee, was left with some dignity.That was arrogance and self-righteous, you owe me I do not owe you!
I did have to agree that there are people out there from the ole days who
seem to view things through rose-colored glasses. As I responded I stated
I agreed that people cannot view things through the rose-colored glasses as stated. As I stated, nostalgia is great for keeping you grounded, but if you're hiding behind something and can't accept the fact that you have to embrace what is at hand today in front of you, you're simply fooling yourself, no matter what genre you come from. I do not see nostalgia as a bad thing if (like anything else) used in its appropriate manner. I use it as an appreciation for where I am and where I am headed. Like I stated, I'm quite familiar with nowadays technology and I can embrace it, it has made things in my life easier.
Nevertheless, I will state do I wish for simpler times, most definitely, will I see it in my lifetime... I seriously doubt it, but I can pray!
Friday, October 8, 2010
Hiring and Time Consuming Decisions
Personally, I think HR and Recruiters need to allocate time for each client or their company and ensure they know what the company does, what they sell, and the synopsis of the product being sold. Note: I have not said they need to know how the job needs to be accomplished. That in their realm of expertise is not required, but as a hiring authority or part of the hiring mix, they should have some knowledge of what they deal with in order to present appropriately, what they have been tasked to do. Recruiters need to step back and make allocated time to the situation. I realize there is 8 hours in a day and many probably work more than that, but if you think about it recruiting is simply a sales job. I am not saying it is an easy one. Nevertheless, put yourself in a situation if you were in sales and you were trying to pick up a new customer. What would you tell the prospective client? Would you want to know a little about the products that are being sold? Would you want to know some statistics on the company you are working with?
How do you successfully manage this challenge? Change the system. Know what you are looking for and learn the specifics. That seems to be one of the biggest downfalls you hear about in an application process, seekers will send in a resume even though they are not qualified. Hmm, well maybe the way you approached it simply states to the seeker "maybe I am qualified." HR has job descriptions on all positions already available. If it something additional maybe HR should get with the hiring authority and sit down in a brain storming session with everyone who is involved and say ok I need to know more about this position you want to hire for, what are the specifics. What will I be looking for? What will you take, what will be the deal breakers?
Simply stated, we are all busy and in today's economic climate and more than ever everybody has a plate full and overflowing. We all have deadlines, we all have expectations, but we have all been taught time management, organization, best practices, change management at least to some degree. It is around us in our everyday living. If you're going to only take something in and not do some sort of research and have a product that will attract a certain type, and sell a product to the prospect who's searching without any knowledge, then there's no proper way to manage.
Like any other position, you have to be on your game. Know what is expected. Just some time to step back and analyze the situation will do more good than harm.
This goes for hiring authorities also. Despite being bogged down with work, we all have been there. We have all stayed hours upon hours to manage and get our work accomplished, but when you have a new addition to your plate, you do not just push it off and hope for the best.
Since companies are being more prudent at hiring, how can they not take this as a serious portion to the added serving on the plate? It has become an important factor, so just as important as it is to get out a specific job, so should the position you are hiring to fill. Again, learning and achieving good time management skills, puts even the more mediocre task in place for achievement. Surely, many has taken the class on putting things in order. A, B, C?
Most Important-Needs to be done now, Will get done, and Not so important can be tossed or file?
Also, get together with hire ups make suggestions; agree to have decisions made on particular positions in a given time. How can a company expect to hire the 100% match or even the 90% match if they cannot even perform the job of what they are seeking appropriately?
Hiring for position carries the same reflection on you as it does an engineer that's expected to get a project completed in X amount of time. It all has its place.
Being in the hiring manager's role, many times we've all felt, "Oh I really don't want to talk to anyone today, or I really don't want to review resumes, or this is to much time to spend on such a trivial task, HR can sum it up."Is that how you approach a job on a project that could be fatal to your customer if you didn't allocate time to study and understand it?
As for as entertaining potential prospects for the just in case factor. If you are spending that much time on just in cases, should you not be spending that much time on the actual position? Learning what is needed. I don’t think finding prospects and adding them to your portfolio to be ready just in case is very lucrative if the prospect doesn’t understand your purpose and to tell people that I have a potential position for you only to find out later that they were simply placed in a possibility bin is unacceptable unless the individual you’re prospecting knows up front what is going on. If you’re doing it and later found to be lieing you’re being deceptive and it would make me leery of a company that allows such practices to prevail whether it is HR or Recruiters. If you are lying about that what else, will you lie about? It follows the same analogy you expect from the selected candidate that you are ensuring is trustworthy and a good fit.
How do you successfully manage this challenge? Change the system. Know what you are looking for and learn the specifics. That seems to be one of the biggest downfalls you hear about in an application process, seekers will send in a resume even though they are not qualified. Hmm, well maybe the way you approached it simply states to the seeker "maybe I am qualified." HR has job descriptions on all positions already available. If it something additional maybe HR should get with the hiring authority and sit down in a brain storming session with everyone who is involved and say ok I need to know more about this position you want to hire for, what are the specifics. What will I be looking for? What will you take, what will be the deal breakers?
Simply stated, we are all busy and in today's economic climate and more than ever everybody has a plate full and overflowing. We all have deadlines, we all have expectations, but we have all been taught time management, organization, best practices, change management at least to some degree. It is around us in our everyday living. If you're going to only take something in and not do some sort of research and have a product that will attract a certain type, and sell a product to the prospect who's searching without any knowledge, then there's no proper way to manage.
Like any other position, you have to be on your game. Know what is expected. Just some time to step back and analyze the situation will do more good than harm.
This goes for hiring authorities also. Despite being bogged down with work, we all have been there. We have all stayed hours upon hours to manage and get our work accomplished, but when you have a new addition to your plate, you do not just push it off and hope for the best.
Since companies are being more prudent at hiring, how can they not take this as a serious portion to the added serving on the plate? It has become an important factor, so just as important as it is to get out a specific job, so should the position you are hiring to fill. Again, learning and achieving good time management skills, puts even the more mediocre task in place for achievement. Surely, many has taken the class on putting things in order. A, B, C?
Most Important-Needs to be done now, Will get done, and Not so important can be tossed or file?
Also, get together with hire ups make suggestions; agree to have decisions made on particular positions in a given time. How can a company expect to hire the 100% match or even the 90% match if they cannot even perform the job of what they are seeking appropriately?
Hiring for position carries the same reflection on you as it does an engineer that's expected to get a project completed in X amount of time. It all has its place.
Being in the hiring manager's role, many times we've all felt, "Oh I really don't want to talk to anyone today, or I really don't want to review resumes, or this is to much time to spend on such a trivial task, HR can sum it up."Is that how you approach a job on a project that could be fatal to your customer if you didn't allocate time to study and understand it?
As for as entertaining potential prospects for the just in case factor. If you are spending that much time on just in cases, should you not be spending that much time on the actual position? Learning what is needed. I don’t think finding prospects and adding them to your portfolio to be ready just in case is very lucrative if the prospect doesn’t understand your purpose and to tell people that I have a potential position for you only to find out later that they were simply placed in a possibility bin is unacceptable unless the individual you’re prospecting knows up front what is going on. If you’re doing it and later found to be lieing you’re being deceptive and it would make me leery of a company that allows such practices to prevail whether it is HR or Recruiters. If you are lying about that what else, will you lie about? It follows the same analogy you expect from the selected candidate that you are ensuring is trustworthy and a good fit.
Pratical Experience vs Theory - Why Outsource
Someone made a statement in a thread I was in that said "the problem with the best solutions, is that no matter how good we are when another culture can produce three engineers for less than one engineer from the US, the statistics and averages always support the higher number... It is nonsense for the US to believe anything else... Me(person making the statement) personally, I’ll always bet on the three heads... where they lack, is the field work... Little or No infrastructure within their own culture to practice turning theory in production;"
In a response, I followed with the following query, "If theory serves me correctly, practical experience leads to the creation of theories. An employer assumes that it is only practical experience that determines the quality of personal theories. However, understanding that practical experience is only part of the equation and together with personal theories is what is important in formulating formal theories. Without practical experience and personal theory, it would make the formulation of formal theories quite difficult to formulate.
My point is, how can 3 heads that has no form or lack of form (due to a lack of infrastructure within) to evaluate a circumstance that utilizes practical experience and personal theory that has proven to work to what has created formal theory (derived from practical experience + personal theory) be capable of turning formal theory in something they actually have no experience at physically doing? You can theorize all day long with 3 heads, would of, could of, should of theory, but without physically applying practical experience there would simply be no personal theory to lead to formal theory.
So by outsourcing based on simply believing “it works” scenario does not necessarily mean it is beneficial to the stability of a global economic windfall. Some of those beliefs are simply being followed by the adage of 3 heads are better than one, which one can honestly state is factual but only based on the theoretical viewpoint that practical experience and theory has created the strategy to succeed on this route, not merely basing it on personal theory only, which is what you’re are actually achieving with a partisan outcome derived at thought without physical experience.
I do not dispel statistical claims but trying to understand, book knowledge can run rapid but without practical experience, there would be no use for theory. So if another culture is simply applying theory where does it become more lucrative to outsource?"
In a response, I followed with the following query, "If theory serves me correctly, practical experience leads to the creation of theories. An employer assumes that it is only practical experience that determines the quality of personal theories. However, understanding that practical experience is only part of the equation and together with personal theories is what is important in formulating formal theories. Without practical experience and personal theory, it would make the formulation of formal theories quite difficult to formulate.
My point is, how can 3 heads that has no form or lack of form (due to a lack of infrastructure within) to evaluate a circumstance that utilizes practical experience and personal theory that has proven to work to what has created formal theory (derived from practical experience + personal theory) be capable of turning formal theory in something they actually have no experience at physically doing? You can theorize all day long with 3 heads, would of, could of, should of theory, but without physically applying practical experience there would simply be no personal theory to lead to formal theory.
So by outsourcing based on simply believing “it works” scenario does not necessarily mean it is beneficial to the stability of a global economic windfall. Some of those beliefs are simply being followed by the adage of 3 heads are better than one, which one can honestly state is factual but only based on the theoretical viewpoint that practical experience and theory has created the strategy to succeed on this route, not merely basing it on personal theory only, which is what you’re are actually achieving with a partisan outcome derived at thought without physical experience.
I do not dispel statistical claims but trying to understand, book knowledge can run rapid but without practical experience, there would be no use for theory. So if another culture is simply applying theory where does it become more lucrative to outsource?"
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